probably the greatest technological university in the world. it's black, it's white, it's muslim, it's christian, it's jewish, it's hindu. that's who we are. >> mr. ellison, the vice president says that's who we are. but there are plenty of commentators who say that's no longer who we want to be. >> yeah, well, you know, the vice president really describes the actual situation on not just m.i.t. campus but america all over. some people don't want america to be a pluralistic society where everybody respects everyone else's individuality and diversity. but, you know, we've always had people like that. in fact, the greater part of our history has been people -- has been made up of people who wanted to relegate some to the sidelines and others to the back of the bus and others to the concentration camps. i mean, we've had that story told. but, you know, we're now at a space in american history where we recognize the deck dignity of all people, the diversity. we see it as a strength, not weakness. i commend the vice president for reminding americans